Magical Devices

A new episode of our podcast, Uncivilized Territories, is here. The title of the 6th episode is Magical Devices. Our hosts, Gabrielle Bell and Tom Kaczynski, are enchanted by magic. The discussion was inspired by a reading of  S.S.O.T.B.M.E. by Ramsey Dukes. S.S.O.T.B.M.E. was first published in 1974. It almost immediately established itself as a seminal text of the then-new magical revival. The (relatively) recently revised edition updates and elaborates on Dukes’ many innovative concepts around magic, including Chaos Magic and early versions of the simulated universe hypothesis.

Through the alchemical power of conversation, the topic spawns a multifaceted hydra of detours and blind alleys. The hosts discuss: 

  • The theory of star seeds
  • High technology as magic
  • Apprehending the modern world through magic
  • Magic vs. science vs. art
  • The internet police state
  • Comics and magic
  • Cryptocurrencies, NFTs, and Bitcoin (!?) 
  • And so much more!

It’s another fun, wide-ranging discussion. Listen to the episode here:

Also available on these platforms: Spotify, Google, Breaker, Pocket Cast, RadioPublic, RSS


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